Monday, July 13, 2009

Ukrops Supermarkets Selling Company?

The rumors have circulated for weeks within the grocery industry concerning the potential sale of Ukrops Supermarkets to Ruddick Corporations wholly owned subsiderary Harris-Teeter. The there has not been an "official" confirmation of the sale, rumors circulated when Harris-Teeter evidently applied for the required ABC permits for 29 stores in the greater Richmond area.

Those growing up in Richmond have long been familiar with Ukrops and its non-alcohol policy as well as its policy of being closed on Sundays.

Harris Teeter operates over 170 stores in eight States and the District of Columbia. These States include North Carolina, Virginia, Deleware, Maryland, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, and South Carolina. In Virginia, Harris Teeter operates 27 stores.

Harris -Teeter is based in Mathews , NC with Ruddick Corp., a NYSE company operating as a holding company for HT and A&E, Inc is located in Charlotte, NC.

Richmond has witnesed the successful entry of another North Carolina market in The Fresh Market located out of Greensboro, NC where Harris Teeter also has operations. While Fresh Market is not a true grocery concept, Harris-Teeter in recent years has reformated its stores to be "market-like" than grocery.

Fresh Market has stores in Richmond (West End/Midlothian), Roanoke, Williamsburg, Virginia Beach and a recently opened unit in Newport News. To date there are almost 90 Fresh Markets predominantly located through the Southeast.

"Official" word should break very soon on a deal that rumors have specualted could be in excess of 850 million.

Ruddick closed today at $22.60 (NYSE)

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Anonymous said...

You ahve got to be kidding, right? First Circuit City, then S&K and now Ukrops. This is crazy. Why would they do this?

James said...

Ukrops appears to have fallen victim to the intense competition brought on by the Walmart Supercenters of the world. Kroger has done an a great job redefining itself and with Costco and BJ's expanding it had to have been tuff to compete.

Ukrops failed in efforts to grow outside Richmond in places like Williamsburg and Roanoke. On its own turf, it has gotten harder and harder to compete as well.

Anonymous said...

As an associate of Ukrop's supermarkets I can tell you something is definatly going on. Nothing sucks more than than the unknown. I am praying for the best.

Anonymous said...

I love Harris Teeter, I can't wait to shop there - WAY nicer than Ukrops

Anonymous said...

Word has it there is a big meeting at the end of the week with upper level management.

I think this deal is all but done folks.

Anonymous said...

I find it very had to believe that the sale price would be anywhere close to $850 million. That amount approaches the ENTIRE market value of Ruddick Corp., of which Harris Teeter is the primary subsidiary.

Harris Teeter has 181 stores and about $3.7 billion in revenue ($20.4mm avg per store), while Ukrop's has 28 stores and about $540mm in sales ($19.3mm avg per store). I'd be shocked if Ukrop's were sold for more than $250mm in this environment, based on the way that Ruddick is valued.

And why would the Ukrop family want to sell at the bottom of the market during a recession? Assuming selling the company were a legitimate option on the table, you'd think they would wait until business improved so they could fetch a higher sale price from Ruddick (or Delhaize, the other logical buyer).

Also, folks, keep in mind that Ruddick / Harris Teeter has only $30mm in cash but $350mm in debt! In these credit markets, how could Ruddick finance the purchase of Ukrop's?

Anonymous said...

Yes there is a meeting at the Ukrop farm on Friday July 17th for all general managers, associates have lost many of their benefits including 401k matching, brithday pay, sick days, and more. All signs that the company is changing hands soon. I believe as early as August 1st. I also doubt the deal with fetch that much money.

Anonymous said...

No pending applications for Harris Teeter in Richmond, according to the State ABC website:

http://www.abc.state.va.us/licenseeSearch/jsp/controller.jsp?task=licenseedata

Anonymous said...

I believe also that one of the commentors is forgetting the value of Ukrops real estate holdings. Sure those units are generating just shy of 600 million estimated for this FY, but one alos has to consider the value of the real estate in the possession of Ukrops.

Also, one must hope that the banking interest that the Ukrops has with First Market (Ukrop is Chairman) is off the table or maybe there is a deal in place which will places the branches of the bank in the stores even after the sale is concluded.

Word has it that the application for the permits for off premise sales via the ABC have been made, whether or not they have made there way through the process of cours is unclear. The public will have the opportunity to dispute any application in the time frame allowed once the application goes through the posting period.

I was informed that Ruddick is a 4 plus billion dollar company of which Harris Teeter represents some 70% of the company's holdings.

The sale price being touted around the City rumor mill is 700 to 800 million. These talks have taken place from time to time over the last ten years or so. The two companies have always been close and Teeter vowed to never enter the Richmond market as long as Ukrops was operating.

There have been runmors the last few years about the lack of family interest from the younger Ukrops to conitinue with the business. While this news may be alarming to some, those that know the Ukrops family will not be that surprised.

Again, the rumor is the Ukrops will focus on the banking industry moving forward.

Either way, getting the Ukrops sites is a steal/coup for Harris Teeter.

Another rumor is that Teeter will be looking to get into the Westchester Commons area of the Watkins Development and may opt to close the Ukrops Sycamore Square unit.

Anonymous said...

The Ukrops are now out of the banking business -- remember that First Market Bank is being sold to Union Bankshares.

That deal was announced about a month ago.

Anonymous said...

I just spoke with Philip Bogenberger of the ABC board. He says he hasn't seen anything come through yet with regards to Harris Teeter applying for a license in Richmond.

I did however find that Teeter applied back in May for licenses at more than 30 locations throughout the state.

Do you think this helped to spur these rumors?

Anonymous said...

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alter means to change. altar is a noun. you might want to alter your title to Altar of Freedom....

James said...

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AoF as covered it before, buit "alter" is the actual word phrase used in old english as used by Abe Lincoln in his famous Civil War letter.

If you ever saw Saving Private Ryan, it is this letter referenced to one Mrs. Bixby in Boston.

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Again its the old english use of "alter" where as through the years we now commonly use the word "altar" in its place.

Clear it up for you?

Anonymous said...

First Market Bank based in Richmond in which Ukrop is the Chairman is "merging" with Union Bankshares. It is not a buyout of First Market and the Ukrop will remain with the concern.

There are negotiations under way to place Union/First Market branches in ALL Harris Teeters not just the the 27 located in Virginia and not the just those stores that Harris Teeter will be acquiring through the purchase of Ukrops locations.

Could it also possibly be in the works for Union/First Market to finance the deal for Ukrops to be acquired? is this not a possible scenario given the very favorbale borrowing rates right now through the Fed programs.

J.D. said...

This deal is getting done. People are in denial. They do not think it could happen, but it is.

This si the perfect time to sell. The economy will get much worse in the next six months and sales at some of its units are faltering already. The Roanoke unit has been a drain on the company and the sales have never materialized in large part due to the location. There was a great piece in the Roanoake online newspaper about the issue and even though the "c" word was not used by Ukrops reps, the message was clear; the unit is struggling. Ukrops could never reach out beyond Richmond and the demo of Richmond is changing. Alot of people are here now that have come from elsewhere.

Chesterfield alone now has 284,000 residents and is the forth largest locality in the State. The demographic is a younger, family demo that is relocating here without the tradition of Ukrops.

Anonymous said...

You are all forgetting how much additional revenue and profit will be generated from wine & beer plus Sunday operations!

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You are also forgetting how to use proper spelling and grammar. It is painful to attempt to read these comments.

Anonymous said...

We saw two HT trucks on I-95 yesterday going south. At the time we commented on how weird that was since there are no HT in Richmond.....

Anonymous said...

Harris Teeter is building a store in Williamsburg, near William & Mary...should be finished this fall.

Anonymous said...

HT is building a massive production facility along Rt 301 as well.

The snag in the deal with Ukrops evidently was the production facilities owned by Ukrops given HT had already made committments for Rt 301, but surely they will utilized those facilities in one fashion or another. HT is planning yet another expansion north into PA, whioch I think is Weis Market country.

Anonymous said...

The person that posted about First Market at 1:30 is simply wrong.

Though the media articles may suggest "merger," Union Bankshares ACQUIRED First Market. Both the Chairman and CEO of the combined banks are from Union. Jim Ukrop is joining the Board of Union but is not Chairman. There's no question that this was an acquisition of First Market by Union.

The bank deal, though, could be a way for the Ukrop family to "clear the deck" prior to the sale of the grocery store. That remains to be seen...

Anonymous said...

As an associate of ukrops I have enjoyed the comments and rumors. Ukrops is not selling nor will sell. You are putting pieces of a puzzle together with pieces that are unrelated and do not fit. Don't try and make them fit. On the flip side if HT were to offer 850Million for the grocery chain (and they are not) put the dollars on the table. If I were the ukrops I sign on the dotted line for 850million in a heart beat.

Alter of Freedom said...

The speculation continued for over a week and for the most part it grew because Ukrops failed to address the speculation and comment.

After countless calls and conversations it WAS Harris Teeter who put an end to the speculation and stated there is no deal in place to acquire Ukrops.(at the present time)

Thank you Harris Teeter.

Not for not buying Ukrops, but for addressing the current state of speculation regarding the two companies. It is true however that Harris Teeter and Ukrops apparently have been in talks though.

As to the issue of Roanoke.

Ukrops will undoubtedly close that unit at the end of the Fiscal Year. The unit has underperformed in a maket where Fresh Market has a unit that is surpassing all expectations and sales goals and others are dominating the market.

The same can be said for the new Midlothian unit across from Chesterfield Towne Center for Fresh Market. Whether or not Harris Teeter has interest in Westchester Commons could not be confirmed or denied, which in itself leads to rampant speculation that if there is no sale to Ukrops that Teeter may finally enter the market.

Those of us that are familiar with Ukrops over the years know that the chain is simply being outmatched by others like Fresh Market, Trader Joes and Whole Foods let alone Krogers plans to pull Food Lion and saturate the market with stores.

All Ukrops needs is for Teeter or Wegmans to enter the Richmond market as well and it would spell even more problems for the company.

Do not get me wrong, Ukrops has been a staple in our household for decades but the very fact that the units are not run as efficiently as they once were or the fact that others have caught up to the experience made it quite easy to believe that the company was selling out to Harris Teeter.

Harris Teeter put an end to the speculation. I just wish Ukrops had done so.

Anonymous said...

An internal memo- no sale pending at this time is the word we are getting.

Anonymous said...

HT is a great store; however, nothing beats the home feeling of Ukrops. I go quite often, and I have spent 10 years taking UK food to college daughters whose friends from around the country fell in love w/ the food, and were always excitd to catch site of the UK brown bag coming into the dorm or to a track meet,hockey or lax. game. I'm hoping these rumors are just that.

Anonymous said...

I've lived in Richmond for 30 years and I toally wish that Wegmans or HT would take over Ukrops. They have NOT kept up with the times. People want cheap (Walmart) or they want an experience (Fresh Market) or they want convenience/selection (Kroger and Food Lion). Ukrops doesn't excel at any of the above. You can only trade on the White House Rolls tradition for so long.

Anonymous said...

Ukrops has some solid stores like the one they have off of Staples Mill near I295 (Crossridge?) but they have failed to upgrade its older stores to keep uo with changing dynamics in the area.

Stony Point and Sycamore Sq. are outdated and smaller units that keep the diversity of product that Ukrops needs to compete.

The biggest area of opportunity for Ukrops is not service, but specialized departments(perishbale) is alot of its units. Its new ones are outstanding, but not everyone has the new store format. Fresh Market's produce is hands down the best in the area right now and though Ukrops is featuring a bit more "local" items it simply just cannot compare to the quality. Kroger has also reformated its produce areas.

What I think Fresh Market and Trader Joes lack is the grocery segment, but admittedly they consider themselves "markets" not grocery stores.

If Ukrops does remain independent then it should certainly be focusing on the changing interests of the public. I did notice since Fresh Market and Trader Joes entered the market that Ukrops has done alot more "sampling" like we are all used to at Costco or Sams.

Last visit there were at least three tasting areas. This is definitely new to our store anyway.

Anonymous said...

Alter- we were told yesterday there was no deal in place and then were told this morning that there was going to be one.

This misdirection and misinformation is very frustrating. Ukrops associates deserve better.

Alter of Freedom said...

It would not be the first time.

If the experience earned while trying to get our heads around Baseball in the Bottom and the City of Richmond proves anything its that all sides have their own agendas.

Given Ruddick Corp. is a publically traded company, I would not be surprised if recent comments regarding the sale (or no sale) was about misdirection.

The issue hit the radio today on 1140AM as well as local news feeds. I guess we will have to wait until Friday for confirmation of any pending acquisition/sale.

Until then its anyones guess what the true reality is and apparently thats just the way the players want it right now.

ivnws4u said...

Wegmans is NOT coming to Richmond at this time. They opened a store in Fredericksburg a few weeks ago and it likely, according to company sources, will be its second highest producer. Opening day saw 20,000 people go through 25 checkouts.
A Wegmans official says that the company plans to back fill between DC and Baltimore in the near future.
There had been a rumor they were headed to the Raleigh-Chapel Hill area...but no.
The purchase of Ukrop's by HT makes sense since the Richmond area is a ghiant hjole in the doughnut...they have stores south, north, east and west of the region.
They have had a small distribution building in Spotsylvania County for two years, that's why they chose to build a 500k sf facility in King George, though they have NOT closed on the county owned site since the announcement 5 mos ago.
Should Ukrop's sell Union Bank has it in writing that banks are to remain in existing locations.
It's been know that Ukrop's has had problems with stores in W'burg and Roanoke and even in Fredericksburg where it opened several years ago officials noted that the first year was tough. They did not know the lifestyle of a person who commutes 90 minutes to and from work each day and primarily shops Fri, sat and SUNDAY. Read between the lines here.
Now, back to the Wegmans factor in Fredericksburg. My wife stopped by Ukrop's the other day and said she hadn't seen it that dead. A nearby Giant had yard signs out in the grass median along Rte 3 with sale items and now the chain is going all out offering 20% discounts in VA stores.
If you don't know about this MEGA store picture a standrad 140sf Target store all groceries, fresh food, produce and yes, beer and wine. They have the high end product, too, since some wine chillers are LOCKED. However, WE just shoopped there and spent just as much as if we had gone to Food Lion just up the road in Ladysmith.
Ultimately, I think if HT purchases Ukrop's some under producing stores are likely to be closed. This is a publicly traded company with shareholders.

Anonymous said...

It's just a rumor regarding HT buying UKROPS. The larger Walmart/SAMS CLUB is interested in buying UKROPS. When Walmart buys UKROPS once a fine tuned UKROP will be built at WESTCHESTER, WATKINS CENTRE with the name of UKROP but owned by WALMART.

By the way, you're right Walmart will see cheap meat

LETS PUT THIS KITTY TO REST.

Anonymous said...

It's just a rumor regarding HT. The large Walmart is interested in UKROPS. Walmart once it purchases UKROPS a fine tuned UKROP will be built at WESTCHESTER, WATKINS CENTRE with the name of UKROP but owned by WALMART.

LETS PUT THIS KITTY TO REST.

J.D. said...

Fact is Harris Teeter gets it and Ukrops does not. If you visit a Harris-Teeter you will see that they have shifted focus to the market concept much like others here have mentioned Fresh Market. FM is a small-scale unit in square footage and delivers high quality, perishable products as its mainstay. It generates higher saler per square foot that alot of the large scale grocery formats like Ukrops. Many of these units of which FM has 88 bring in around 13 million and even more in Florida. They also do a great job in site selection and allow themselves a lower cost of entry than a big box format. I imagine Trader Joe's is the same in that context.

Both Harris-Teeter and Fresh Market operate predominantly in the same market of North Carolina, but Harris-Teeter has around 27 Virginia stores outside of Richmond while Fresh Market has but 6 units thus far with the most recent new store opening being Midlothian, Va and Newport News, Va.
It can be confirmed that there is nothing new on the Wegman's front other than to say that they HAVE been looking for sites in the Richmond area.
The success of Whole Foods, Fresh Market and Trader Joes in the market is to much for them not to consider given they have the distribution channels much like Harris Teeter that could easily accomodate the units.

Anonymous said...

There has been much talk about their store in Roanoke under performing, but Fredericksburg is a disaster. Traffic is diminishing by the week, and it is hard to see how that store is still open.
The businesses who hitched their wagon to Ukrops presence are surely regretting it now.

Anonymous said...

The sale of Ukrops is a done deal. Why? First, HT has been scouting sites in the Richmond area for about 12 months. They identified those that work if they have to compete with Ukrops in each of the market hot-spots around the region, and made soft commitments with owners of those sites in a soft market. Second, Ukrop's owns nearly all of their own store sites. This has been their extraordinarily expensive strategy for a long time, and it does not necessarily make sense. Ruddick / HT can sell the properties to subsidize the purchase price. Third, banking is more profitable than groceries, and Ukrops / Union has the retail sites locked up. Fourth, any business that merely has to change it's name in order to shake the family credo of not selling beer & wine and closing on Sunday has value. Call a Ukrops a Harris Teeter, and increase storewide volume 20+%. It's a no-brainer. This is a done-deal!

Anonymous said...

The real estate aspect has been the catch to this deal all along.

People balked at values in excess of 700 million, but if you take the real value of the sites that Ukrops owns and not simply use the current economic valuation due to falling commercial values it is easy to see how the value of the company rises to that level.

Again, one has to look at the long term value v. return on investment based not on the performance per say of the Ukrops concept, but what Harris Teeter stores on average are doing within the eight states they operate in.

ivnws4u said...

A co-worker informed me that the at the Fredericksburg Ukrop's last evening there were only a handful of people in the store -- at 6:30p.m. The produce was bare, not much to pick over. Odd for this chain to have this image.
He also noted that only a couple of employees at the checkout. He had to carry his own to the car.
If anything this store sounds like it's ready to shut its doors... no produce stocked? WOW!
Over at the Wegmans at about 10:45 this morning, parking lot half full and the deli/bakery lunch counter preparing for a crowd. They have cafe seating for 500, BTW. Some of it outside on the patio and upper balcony.

Anonymous said...

There is certainly "more money" in the banking business but in my estimation there is also alot more competition than the grocery business.

Ukrops has been first mover in the customer service, community-based formula but its is left to be seen whether they can transform the history they have had in grocery into the very competitive banking niche.

I understand they will get the First Market/Union branches within all the stores with lower costs given they are not "full-banking" little boxes, but whether or not they can leverage the past with the future is unknown.

Anonymous said...

This is no surprise to me! Bobby and James have no clue what goes on in their stores. The service is going down hill. I've worked there over 10 years and have seen alot of changes in service. Cashiers talk among themselves instead of paying attention to the customers. The customers push their own groceries out. Just a short time back if a manager saw you pushing your own cart out the door, they would stop you and take them out, not anymore, they just let you go your merry way!
Bobby has said that no one can work in the main office without a college degree so people are hired right out of college and the only knowledge they have of the grocery business is when they went to the store as a child with their parents.
Bobby also wants to stop thrift altogether too. And you think all the leftover thrift goes to the foodbank? I got news for you, most of it goes down the trash compactor.
All Ukrops thinks about now is the dollars, not what his dad thought about, the customer and service!!!!

Anonymous said...

Question for Alter of Freedom. What did Harris Teeter say exactly? Our local media says they have only issued 'no comment', and I haven't seen anything else to suggest otherwise. Any info you have would be helpful.
Also to those who say this is a done deal, do you have actual knowledge?

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Anonymous said...

Actually, the "no comment" is a comment of sorts. The Ukriops of old was always very quick to dispell any rumor within the community that trickled throughout the area when it concerned its name and business.

But then, today we are dealing with a different arm or leg if you will of the family. One thing is certain, if Ukrops were not in heavy discussions with Harris-Teeter or any other suitor they would have certainly released a statement of denial.

They have done it before.

This time the "no comment" must mean there are still talks underway.

dardevl26 said...

As a Ukrops associate, as of recently there has been talk of another statewide general manager meeting. Ukrops is changing, my information from Dumbarton off of staples mill tells me that college students who leave have to reapply to the company when they return from school. Another thing the manager had mentioned is the hours they once had have depleted so much that not many people are able to work for the company. When I was in West Park on Broad Street, many new faces have appeared. I'm not so sure on that.

For Roanoke, a manager I had spoken to had told me that in the first four days that Roanoke Ukrops was open, they only made roughly 1 million. Not much for four days. The escalators broke several times that day. No doubt that Roanoke will be closed. It looks just like Cross Ridge on Staples Mill.

We're still waiting to hear about HT buying out Ukrops. FMB will be bought out no doubt. As of now Bobby Ukrop is saying nothing and he will supposedly be the first to give an official word about HT buying Ukrops.

Anonymous said...

All these rumors- Now I hear Lowes Foods might buy Ukrops- Who knows- But we all are all praying for the Best and Hopeful for News very soon.

Anonymous said...

I work at Ukrops. Yesterday five men wearing business attire were in our store with blueprints and layouts. When asked, they said said they were from Lowe's. It is so obvious what is happening......... They were not even trying to hide it.

Anonymous said...

I am amazed when you go back to July and see the comments that Ukrops isnt for sale and will never sell. Where there is smoke there is fire.. and MANY employees have seen things lately that lead to the impression its already a done deal.

- Kyle N said...

I am also a current employee. I work at 486, the Short Pump store on the corner of Pump and Broad.

They're keeping us in the dark on the potential deal. From what I'm reading though (http://www.city-data.com/forum/richmond/703161-goodbye-ukrops.html), it looks like it's going to happen; Harris Teeter will buy Ukrops. It is fact that HT has applied for 29 liquor licenses for the address of Ukrops locations. I hope nothing changes too drastically...

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