tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post7469927725295293837..comments2023-11-05T05:05:34.610-04:00Comments on Alter of Freedom: SCHIP is about Policy and Now Immigrant Groups Support Its VetoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post-7178593356195097692007-10-18T21:40:00.000-04:002007-10-18T21:40:00.000-04:00A the veto is sustained. Finally some conservatism...A the veto is sustained. Finally some conservatism coming back into play here. Reid and Pelosi however have to be quite a disapointment for the Dems. They cannot even get concensus of SCHIP or FISA but of course they will blame the Republicans.<BR/>If this leadership is any indication of the kind we will have if they take the White House and the Senate and House remain the same...no thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post-30113443162861594062007-10-15T15:27:00.000-04:002007-10-15T15:27:00.000-04:00I agree with you in terms of what seems like misin...I agree with you in terms of what seems like misinformation coming from leading Democrats. I do not think that the Virginia Democrats are the same breed as those in Washington. I think the more liberal Democrats and those favoring the socialization of government are largely not from Virginia. I think the Democratic base of Virginia is more moderate conservative though liberal are making in roads here thanks to progressive bloggers which I feel are not really representative of the values and traditions we Virginians have always embraced. <BR/>Mark Warner is certainly not your average Democrat by Washington standards. One of my concerns is what will hapeen to our Virginia Democrats if the Democrats win the White House in 2008 and Virginia should we have a Democratic Governor as well the full term in terms of our policymaking within the GA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post-29765680640631412982007-10-12T18:32:00.000-04:002007-10-12T18:32:00.000-04:00James:I think the greater point is that the leader...James:<BR/>I think the greater point is that the leadership in Richmond is pushing a ban of public smoking period. They will be going after restaurants and such in an effort to limit the availability of smoking access. One can debate that later. What I find ridiculous is pegging funding for SCHIP to those taxes generated from smokers consumption, which of course the Democrats and some Republicans in Virginia are trying to limit.<BR/>They will argue of course that people will never stop consumption, which begs the question why they through countless revenues at health programs to do just that..limit consumption by consumers and at the same time peg funding SCHIP to the a decelerating revenue stream.<BR/>I liken it to the gas tax. Liberal seem to want to increase the gas tax as a means of generating more tax revenue as the answer to the transportation funding question over the so-called abuser fees and yet nationally endorse ending our dependence on foriegn oil, environmental impacts on drilling within the US, pushing for electronic/hybrid standard cars, demanding higher epa standards and miles per gallon fuel efficeincies all of which would decrease the number of gallons of gas consumed and thus lower the revenues generated from the underlying tax. Its also like looking to France and saying we should change our healthcare system to mirror there but ignore the fact that much of it is funded by the savings of the fact that 80% of country is nucluered powered. You will not get one Democrat running for President to address nucluer energy as an option. They simply give talking points about "waste" and yet all of our nucluer aircraft carriers do not seem to have an issue with "waste"...I wonder why that is?<BR/>We need some straight talk about solutions and not mixed messages appeasing various groups.<BR/>I don't know single person who does not want to fund children's healthcare for the poor, but it how the policy is shaped that brings the debate. As it stands today this legislation is poorly conceived and ill-advised. Hopefully they will fix it so it makes sense.FoodforThoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847926286282922952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post-71992481742681058512007-10-11T14:06:00.000-04:002007-10-11T14:06:00.000-04:00If I understand all this right, Liberals in Virgin...If I understand all this right, Liberals in Virginia, excuse me "progressives", have this big problem with "abuser fees" and how it unjustly hits people unfairly and does not cover out of state offenders and yet feel perfectly willing to have excise taxes on cigarettes penalize a consumer to pay for another welfare and socialized program under the guise of healthcare for children.<BR/>Exactly where would have all those fees gone. If your willing to penalize smokers for their habit why are they so unwilling to penalize drivers for their poor habituals behind the wheel of a car. I simply just do not understand the logic they try and project other than to to whatever they can to bring down any measure created by the right no matter what the merits.<BR/>Evidently it is pefectly fine for a portion of the population (smokers) to solely flip the bill to provide healthcare funding for SCHIP and children with the other portion with no responsibility whatsoever. Can you say indifference or what?<BR/>Maybe smokers should have to flip the bill for increased healthcare costs related to that habit might be more suitable but while their taxes go to support one form of socialized care how will they be covered when it comes time for them to seek treatment for the effects of smoking their entire lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4016574119422355102.post-41318155665650142422007-10-11T10:41:00.000-04:002007-10-11T10:41:00.000-04:00Conveniently the MSM does not want to report the r...Conveniently the MSM does not want to report the real legislation, simply that Bush vetoed the bill to save healthcare for children all the while spending its time talking about Rush and his comments. You would think something as important as the healthcare debate would get more focused covergae on the bill itself and of course the taxes associated with it that Democrats do not want to talk about or even acknowledge.<BR/>I was unaware of the Democrats being the ones keeping the requirement of five years for immigrants before being eligible. You would think that could be exploited more by the Republicans here in Virginia. <BR/>What do you think about Democrats and the smoking ban bills as it relates to the SCHIP financing???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com